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Pronoms en et y

J'en ai marre, j'y pense, il y en a — the two pronouns French refuses to drop.

en and y are the two pronouns that most distinguish fluent French from textbook French. English usually just drops the equivalent ('I want some' → 'I want'), but French refuses: you almost always need en or y to fill the slot. en replaces things introduced by de — partitives (du painj'en mange), quantities (deux livresj'en ai deux), and de + thing complements (parler de mon travailj'en parle). y replaces things introduced by à (à Parisj'y vais) and most other prepositions of place (chez Mariej'y vais), as well as abstract à + thing complements (penser à mon avenirj'y pense). At B2 level you also need fluency with idiomatic uses (s'en aller, en avoir marre, s'y prendre) and with stacked combinations (il y en a, je m'en occupe).

en for partitives and quantities

en replaces a noun phrase introduced by du / de la / des / de when it's a partitive ('some') or a quantity. Tu veux du café? Oui, j'en veux. = Do you want some coffee? Yes, I want some. Elle a des amis. Elle en a beaucoup. = She has friends. She has lots. As-tu de l'argent? Non, je n'en ai pas. = Do you have money? No, I don't have any. With a specific number or measure, the number stays at the end: J'ai deux frères.J'en ai deux. = I have two (of them). Combien de pommes? J'en veux trois. = How many apples? I want three. This is non-negotiable in French: you cannot say J'en veux on its own without context, and you cannot say J'ai deux without en. The pronoun must be there even though English drops it.

en for de + thing (not de + person)

Many French verbs and expressions take de + chose for their complement. en replaces that de + thing phrase. parler de (to talk about) → J'en parle souvent. = I talk about it/them often. avoir besoin deJ'en ai besoin. = I need it. avoir envie deJ'en ai envie. = I feel like it. se souvenir deJe m'en souviens. = I remember it. avoir peur deJ'en ai peur. = I'm afraid of it. être content deJ'en suis content. = I'm happy about it. profiter deJ'en profite. = I'm taking advantage. Crucially, en replaces things; for people, you keep de + lui / elle / eux: Je parle de MarieJe parle d'elle, NOT J'en parle. (Some speakers do use en for people in casual speech, but the textbook rule is things only.)

y for places and à + thing

y replaces a phrase introduced by à, dans, sur, chez, or any preposition of place (except de, which uses en). For place: Je vais à Paris.J'y vais. = I'm going (there). Elle habite chez ses parents.Elle y habite. = She lives there. Je suis dans la cuisine.J'y suis. = I'm there/in there. For abstract à + chose: penser à (think about) → J'y pense. = I'm thinking about it. réfléchir àJ'y réfléchis. = I'm reflecting on it. s'intéresser àJe m'y intéresse. = I'm interested in it. s'habituer àJe m'y habitue. = I'm getting used to it. arriver à (manage to) → Je n'y arrive pas. = I can't manage. tenir à (care about) → J'y tiens. = I'm attached to it. As with en: for people, keep à + lui / elle / eux: Je pense à MarieJe pense à elle, NOT J'y pense.

Position — same as other pronouns

en and y sit in the same slot as other object pronouns: BEFORE the conjugated verb (in simple tenses) or BEFORE the auxiliary (in compound tenses), and BEFORE an infinitive when there is one. J'en mange. = I eat some. J'en ai mangé. = I ate some. Je vais en manger. = I'm going to eat some. J'y vais. = I'm going. J'y suis allé. = I went there. Je veux y aller. = I want to go there. In imperative affirmative, they go AFTER the verb with a hyphen, and -er verbs add a euphonic -s before en/y: Manges-en! = Eat some! Vas-y! = Go on! / Go ahead! In imperative negative, normal order: N'en mange pas! N'y va pas!

Stacking pronouns: il y en a, je m'en occupe

en and y can combine with each other and with other pronouns. The fixed order in the cluster is: me/te/se/nous/vous > le/la/les > lui/leur > y > en. So y comes before en. The most common combo is il y en a = there is/are some / there's some of it. Combien de personnes? Il y en a dix. = How many people? There are ten. Il n'y en a plus. = There aren't any left. With reflexives: Je m'en vais. = I'm leaving (literally 'I'm taking myself away'). Je m'en occupe. = I'll take care of it. Je m'y intéresse. = I'm interested in it. Tu t'y habitueras. = You'll get used to it. With other object pronouns: Donne-m'en! = Give me some! Donne-lui-en! = Give him/her some! Il m'en a parlé. = He told me about it.

Idiomatic en — fixed expressions you must know

en appears in countless fixed expressions where the de + thing it replaces is no longer transparent. (a) s'en aller = to leave. Je m'en vais. = I'm leaving. (b) en avoir marre / en avoir assez / en avoir ras-le-bol (colloquial-to-vulgar) = to be fed up. J'en ai marre! = I'm sick of it! (c) s'en faire = to worry. Ne t'en fais pas. = Don't worry. (d) s'en sortir = to manage / get by. Il s'en sort bien. = He's doing fine. (e) en vouloir à quelqu'un = to be mad at someone. Je lui en veux. = I'm holding it against him. (f) en finir avec = to be done with. J'en ai fini avec lui. = I'm done with him. (g) en venir à = to come to / get to (the point). J'en viens au fait. = I'm getting to the point. These are not optional — they're how educated French speakers actually talk.

Idiomatic y — s'y prendre, ça y est, on y va

y also appears in many idioms. (a) s'y prendre = to go about (doing) something. Tu t'y prends mal. = You're going about it the wrong way. (b) ça y est! = that's it! / done! / there we go! Used constantly in everyday speech. (c) on y va = let's go / off we go. Allez, on y va! = Come on, let's go! (d) j'y suis = 'I get it' / 'I'm with you'. Ah, j'y suis! = Oh, now I see! (e) n'y voir que du feu = to be completely fooled. (f) vas-y! = go on / come on / do it! Universal encouragement word. (g) y être pour quelque chose / pour rien = to have / not have anything to do with it. Je n'y suis pour rien! = It has nothing to do with me!

Quick recap

(1) en replaces de + thing: partitives (j'en veux), quantities (j'en ai trois), de-complements (j'en parle, j'en ai besoin). (2) y replaces à + thing and place phrases (j'y vais, j'y pense, j'y suis). (3) For people, keep stressed de lui / à elle, etc. (4) Position is the same as other object pronouns. (5) Order in clusters: y before enil y en a. (6) Idioms: s'en aller, en avoir marre, ne pas s'en faire, ça y est, on y va, vas-y!

Examples

Tu veux du café? Oui, j'en veux.
Do you want some coffee? Yes, I want some.
en replaces du café (partitive). English drops 'some'; French can't drop en.
J'ai deux frères. J'en ai deux.
I have two brothers. I have two (of them).
With a number, the number stays at the end and en is still required.
J'en ai marre!
I'm sick of it!
Idiom en avoir marre = to be fed up. en is fixed and not analyzable.
Ne t'en fais pas.
Don't worry.
s'en faire = to worry. Reflexive te + en + fais.
Je vais à Paris. → J'y vais.
I'm going to Paris. → I'm going (there).
y replaces à Paris. Constant in everyday French.
J'y pense souvent.
I think about it often.
penser à + chosey. (For people: je pense à lui/elle.)
Combien de personnes? Il y en a dix.
How many people? There are ten.
Classic stack: il + y + en + a. Order is y before en.
Je m'en vais.
I'm leaving.
s'en aller = to leave. Reflexive me + en + vais.
Vas-y!
Go on! / Go ahead!
Imperative + y with hyphen. Note the euphonic -s on vas.
Ça y est!
That's it! / Done!
Fixed idiom; the most useful three syllables in spoken French.

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